My 3 ft CRS tank plan. Advice please.

[sildum]

Guys, I would like to have a CRS tank and I draw out a plan I have for my tank set up.



Please input and give me comments on it on where I should change. I wanna do it right at the first try. Can the filtration set up work for crs, as I read they are very particular about the peremeter? Will be open to any opinion and would change my plan accordingly.

Also, I will be adding a small piece of drift wood tied with christmas moss.

Gravel will probably be using GEX shrimp soil mix with ADA Aquasoil Amonzia. Will be adding Mosura old sea mud powder. (any other reccomendation of powder to add in? )

Hmmm.. What is the box below the rainbar supposed to do? Is that a after filter? Also for CRS you should not be looking at coral chips because they do raise pH and CRS needs lower PH for them to survive and thrive. Also based on personal experience, GEX soil buffering properties is not that good. Probably last you about half a year or so. Better to get other type of soil such as mosura, ada or benibachi soil.

On top of that, I am not too sure how you are going to get your chiller to chill the water without a pump pumping water in. What i suggest is to connect your ehiem filter to connect to the chiller and output of cold water come out from chiller directly.

I would recommend a filter with a bigger capacity as well to manage your 3 ft tank as 2213 might be insufficient. Overfiltration is better than under filtration. I've used 2213 on 2ft tanks and found that they were just nice. 2213 for a 3ft tank might be a little underkill.

As for your soil, you could also add in some bacterial powder such as mosura bt-9 to speed up your cycling time. Also just to add on, underground filter has been proven to reduce the lifespan of your soil. You might want to consider using a normal inlet instead.

[sildum]

Originally Posted by binniez

Hmmm.. What is the box below the rainbar supposed to do? Is that a after filter? Also for CRS you should not be looking at coral chips because they do raise pH and CRS needs lower PH for them to survive and thrive. Also based on personal experience, GEX soil buffering properties is not that good. Probably last you about half a year or so. Better to get other type of soil such as mosura, ada or benibachi soil.

On top of that, I am not too sure how you are going to get your chiller to chill the water without a pump pumping water in. What i suggest is to connect your ehiem filter to connect to the chiller and output of cold water come out from chiller directly.

I would recommend a filter with a bigger capacity as well to manage your 3 ft tank as 2213 might be insufficient. Overfiltration is better than under filtration. I've used 2213 on 2ft tanks and found that they were just nice. 2213 for a 3ft tank might be a little underkill.

As for your soil, you could also add in some bacterial powder such as mosura bt-9 to speed up your cycling time. Also just to add on, underground filter has been proven to reduce the lifespan of your soil. You might want to consider using a normal inlet instead.

Thank you for your input. Is coral chips not recommended? If so that what media should I use? Bacterial house and bio balls? The box under the rain bar is a over head filter. I thought if using a over head filter like that I can encourage more biological filtration and also the water will be more aerated and thus I do not need a air pump.

I will look into a better canister filter if 2213 is not sufficient. Probably 2215?

I uses ugf inlet as recommended by one of bro silane shrimp tank article. It is said to be better for filtration. Also to note it is just a small portion of the tank.

[CrAnKCaM]

do u attach additional pump to chiller or the chiller itself has a pump in it?
u probably need a 2217 for your setup

Hmmm.. Probably a ehiem 2217 would be good too for overfiltration and incase you need to upgrade your tank in the future. Like what bro eviltrain said, putting a prefilter would be good. If you need more aeration in your tank then what you can do is to place your rainbar above water level. That would be more than sufficient aeration already. Don't have to do the extra step.

[sildum]

Originally Posted by CrAnKCaM

do u attach additional pump to chiller or the chiller itself has a pump in it?
u probably need a 2217 for your setup

To tell you the truth, I didn't read and check properly. Didn't know a chiller need a pump. Sorry.

Originally Posted by eviltrain

Bro, for your undergravel to work wothout any problem from clogging, you might wants to try putting the panel in a acrylic box ( size easily get from daiso )

Put a layer of media on the panel, and then a layer of quartz sand over the media. This will help you prevent future problems.

As for your overhead filter, change it to another canister ( to act as a dummy )

One thing to look out for is to find canister with the same hose size thruout. Example 16/22. Lesser flow rate problem

Link up your filtration setup like this.

Moveable undergravel panel -> prefilter filled with white wool -> working canister 1 filled with media -> dummy canister 2 filled with media -> chiller -> rainbar.

Next time if you wants to do maintaince, just change the white wool in the prefilter will do.

Soil i would recommand the same as bro binniez. new ada ii, mosura or benbanchi.

Good luck and hope to see your setup soon.



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Bro eviltrain. The cannister you recommend is 2222/2216 is that correct?

when you say ' Put a layer of media on the panel, and then a layer of quartz sand over the media. This will help you prevent future problems.' Do you mean by this?



What media do you recommend me to put in the acrylic box?

Thank you so much for your input. Now I have a much better idea to do a cleaner and better set up as compared to OHF.

Originally Posted by binniez

Hmmm.. Probably a ehiem 2217 would be good too for overfiltration and incase you need to upgrade your tank in the future. Like what bro eviltrain said, putting a prefilter would be good. If you need more aeration in your tank then what you can do is to place your rainbar above water level. That would be more than sufficient aeration already. Don't have to do the extra step.

Thank you for your input. Is it better if I put the rainbar below the water? So as to not cause co much disturbance on the water surface and get a air pump instead? Or I will just position the rainbar slightly above water level?

Hmmm.. For me, I just leave the rainbar above water level. Works fine for me. If you like an extra airpump you could do so too. Depends on personal preference. If your tank is not in your room then rain bar above water level is good. But if your tank is in your room then its better that your rain bar stays below water level because it can get pretty noisy.

Bro, for your undergravel to work wothout any problem from clogging, you might wants to try putting the panel in a acrylic box ( size easily get from daiso )

Put a layer of media on the panel, and then a layer of quartz sand over the media. This will help you prevent future problems.

As for your overhead filter, change it to another canister ( to act as a dummy )

One thing to look out for is to find canister with the same hose size thruout. Example 16/22. Lesser flow rate problem

Link up your filtration setup like this.

Moveable undergravel panel -> prefilter filled with white wool -> working canister 1 filled with media -> dummy canister 2 filled with media -> chiller -> rainbar.

Next time if you wants to do maintaince, just change the white wool in the prefilter will do.

Soil i would recommand the same as bro binniez. new ada ii, mosura or benbanchi.

Good luck and hope to see your setup soon.



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Originally Posted by sildum

To eviltrain. The cannister you recommend is 2222/2216 is that correct?

when you say ' Put a layer of media on the panel, and then a layer of quartz sand over the media. This will help you prevent future problems.' Do you mean by this?



What media do you recommend me to put in the acrylic box?

Thank you so much for your input. Now I have a much better idea to do a cleaner and better set up as compared to OHF.



Thank you for your input. Is it better if I put the rainbar below the water? So as to not cause co much disturbance on the water surface and get a air pump instead? Or I will just position the rainbar slightly above water level?

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Bearing in mind that yours is a 3ft tank setup, I would recommend using a good cannister filter powerful enough to have sufficient cycling rate for the expected volume of water and to drive the chiller. Use good medias in the canister and you can actually do away with the OHF. Just my opinion