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Old 29-10-2014, 04:39 PM   #1
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Hi All sifus

This is my new setup of 422 African Cichlids tank.

Current tankmate, 10 x normal burundi, 5 x Yellow Angel Fish (dunnoe the name), and mix with 3 small clown loaches.

Going to intro some altos series fish into it. And also plan for get some plant to put into it for decoration purpose

For the substrate, i am using 15kg of c3 coral sand and 8kg of c0 coral sand.

Feel free to comments if something need to be improve.

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Old 29-10-2014, 05:54 PM   #2
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Welcome to the tanganyikan world buddy!

Personally I would put slightly more coral sand....at least 10kg+. Your rocks looks great....hope you place yr rocks on the base first before adding sand and not on top of sand. I don't see any angels....maybe you referring to the 'lemon cichlid'...the Neolamprologus leleupi.

Whats the filtration system btw? Any currents flow?

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Old 29-10-2014, 06:24 PM   #3
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Can replace the clown loach with tangan synodontis to give a more Biotope themed tank.
Overall nice tank
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Old 29-10-2014, 06:45 PM   #4
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Welcome to the tanganyikan world buddy!

Personally I would put slightly more coral sand....at least 10kg+. Your rocks looks great....hope you place yr rocks on the base first before adding sand and not on top of sand. I don't see any angels....maybe you referring to the 'lemon cichlid'...the Neolamprologus leleupi.

Whats the filtration system btw? Any currents flow?

Happy tanganyikan keeping!
Hi

Is that mean i need to top-up about 10kg more to get a better aesthetics view? Sorry for the previous typo, currently was abt 25kg+ of c3 coral sand and 8kg of c0 coral sand. So in total will be around 35kg.

Yup, the little lemon cichlid which was called by "Heaven Bird" when i bought over from lfs. Thanks to point out their name.

I am actually slot in the stone into the coral sand substrate, bcuz i set up this with tank coral sand first then after 2 weeks later only get this stone and start to decorate it.

My current filtration system is using Mr.aqua OHF with up-aqua water pump. This pump claimed that able to produce 50l/minutes of the flow rate, but after using i suspect it's only up to around 2200 l/hr flow rate.


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Can replace the clown loach with tangan synodontis to give a more Biotope themed tank.
Overall nice tank
Noted, thanks for your recommendation.

Will go jalan jalan and hunt it..

Btw, the reason i put clown loach is actually after i decom my previous tank i dunnoe where to throw them. So just throw in this tank for a temporary solution. Will move to another tank after when i done my setup for corydoras tank.
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Old 30-10-2014, 07:08 PM   #5
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Hi Jyee, welcome to tanganyikan community!

Nice big tank! You may like to add sponge filter to give the tank more aeration if you feel the OHF is not strong enough. I use sponge filter as add-on with canister for all my tanks. Especially when you get poison by the 2 shifu above with their hugh collection of tanga your bioload gonna increase.....hahahahaha
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Old 30-10-2014, 08:00 PM   #6
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good start watch out for the fronts as they grow along, dashing fronts get injured easily by sharp edges.
sand bed is thick enough, dont go too deep sandbed for a start, else you might get water parameters problems coming along. as long as the rocks are stable you should be good. just watch out that the lelupis do not start digging under the rocks. if need be, get some egg crates from hardware shop and put beneath the rocks.
increase your aeration and keep the updates coming as your tank progresses
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Old 30-10-2014, 08:36 PM   #7
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good start watch out for the fronts as they grow along, dashing fronts get injured easily by sharp edges.
sand bed is thick enough, dont go too deep sandbed for a start, else you might get water parameters problems coming along. as long as the rocks are stable you should be good. just watch out that the lelupis do not start digging under the rocks. if need be, get some egg crates from hardware shop and put beneath the rocks.
increase your aeration and keep the updates coming as your tank progresses
Thanks for your remind bro.
Will monitor abt that, current condition still ok. So far the stone was quite stable.
No wonder some of the gap between the stone is bigger than before, now knew who is the one did that already.
Hahaha
Currently, just using the largest bigboy airpump for this tank.
Plan to get either a hiblow-20 or medo 28b to supply all of my 3 tanks.
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Old 31-10-2014, 06:47 AM   #8
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Thanks for your remind bro.
Will monitor abt that, current condition still ok. So far the stone was quite stable.
No wonder some of the gap between the stone is bigger than before, now knew who is the one did that already.
Hahaha
Currently, just using the largest bigboy airpump for this tank.
Plan to get either a hiblow-20 or medo 28b to supply all of my 3 tanks.
Yes if u had already put sand first instead of rocks, the other way is like YM said...sweep some sand away and lay egg crates so yr rocks can be stabilized. Your rocks however doesn't seem that tall except that one on the far right. IMO lelupis like to dig but honestly I wouldn't worry about small fishes digging. Its the fronts that I'm more worry in future as some fronts when reached 4inches and above like to dig to create a cave to hide.....which surprises me tbh. Mine dig like nobody business until I see glass base.

Get at least a Hi-blow 20 if u intend to supple all 3 big tanks. Hi-blows are silent and reliable.

I'm a sucker for more sand, especially since your tank is 2ft high. But as a guide, try not to exceed 7cm high sand or you will invite bad bacterias deep down.

Finally...as for plants wise, it is not advisable for tanganyikan tanks due to few reason....

1. Some tanganyikans like to uproot plants;
2. Some vegetarian tangs like to eat plants;
3. Most plants will not thrive in highly alkaline water conditions required by tangs except few;
4. Etc.

Do keep us updated!
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Old 03-11-2014, 04:33 PM   #9
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Yes if u had already put sand first instead of rocks, the other way is like YM said...sweep some sand away and lay egg crates so yr rocks can be stabilized. Your rocks however doesn't seem that tall except that one on the far right. IMO lelupis like to dig but honestly I wouldn't worry about small fishes digging. Its the fronts that I'm more worry in future as some fronts when reached 4inches and above like to dig to create a cave to hide.....which surprises me tbh. Mine dig like nobody business until I see glass base.

Get at least a Hi-blow 20 if u intend to supple all 3 big tanks. Hi-blows are silent and reliable.

I'm a sucker for more sand, especially since your tank is 2ft high. But as a guide, try not to exceed 7cm high sand or you will invite bad bacterias deep down.

Finally...as for plants wise, it is not advisable for tanganyikan tanks due to few reason....

1. Some tanganyikans like to uproot plants;
2. Some vegetarian tangs like to eat plants;
3. Most plants will not thrive in highly alkaline water conditions required by tangs except few;
4. Etc.

Do keep us updated!
Thanks for your remind Bro Brichardi.
The way i decorate my stone is find those flat surface one as the base and some of the stone modified by the ex-owner. He used silicone to joint up 2 stone to create like a base. So it will help to stable the stone and more easy for me to decorate.

About the cave i worry that also, maybe in future this case happen. Will need to redecorate all the stone to create a cave for them.

Yaya, plan to get Hi-blow. But heard from fren, saying medo not bad too. And his colleague had used this for over 8 years. So, still thinking of it. For noise wise, not so worry as all my tanks not place in the house.

Ok, Noted. Will try not to get the thickness of the sand more than 7cm.

Still searching what kind of plant suit for the theme of this tank, may not be alot. Most likely 2 to 3 plant, and found few types of plant suitable in high pH environment. For this tank, more likely will just intro altus series tagans only. Hope all of them not vegetarian.
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Old 30-10-2014, 08:30 PM   #10
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Hi Jyee, welcome to tanganyikan community!

Nice big tank! You may like to add sponge filter to give the tank more aeration if you feel the OHF is not strong enough. I use sponge filter as add-on with canister for all my tanks. Especially when you get poison by the 2 shifu above with their hugh collection of tanga your bioload gonna increase.....hahahahaha
Thanks bro.
Actually I already place 2 airstone behind the stone,and when I snap this photo I adjust the angle of the light. So make the background becum more dark, so can't seen any bubble in this photo.
Hahaha, super poison when look back to all the past thread.
Will do some adjustment on the ohf either increase more layer or replaced the filter media.
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