how to ID pdr? need advice

hi guys.. really need some expert advice

im really having hard time to id rays especially PDRs

any references on how to ID rays? websites? threads? forum?

and one more what is P12,13,14? WHY? "P"

thank you very much.. hoping for your response

happy fish keeping everyone C:

[noobmiyavi]

Go search around AF. A lot of threads have been discussed about this same topic time and time and again. Never ending cycle liao bro.

[Glith]

P stands for potamotrygon. Their scientific name.

[Vitor]

Originally Posted by Glith

P stands for potamotrygon. Their scientific name.

Scientific name aside, practically = poka dot ray...
PDr is black ray w white spots without the skirting dots... Go search....
Quite easy to get answers.

[Vitor]

Originally Posted by Anarchy78

hi guys.. really need some expert advice

im really having hard time to id rays especially PDRs

any references on how to ID rays? websites? threads? forum?

and one more what is P12,13,14? WHY? "P"

thank you very much.. hoping for your response

happy fish keeping everyone C:

P12,13,14 just names,
Is the same as pleco...Lxxx or car models.....etc etc

. No one actually know exact why , not start from p1.....

thank you very much for all of your kind response.. really appreciate it.. its been weeks already ive been researching about rays and i learned alot and still learning.. very interesting and lovely fishes.. acquired some common motoros already. wish me luck hehe thanks alot AF

[Shawnsp]

Welcome on board!

Need help on ray keeping, feel free to PM me

Cheers,

[davidw]

Originally Posted by Vitor

P12,13,14 just names,
Is the same as pleco...Lxxx or car models.....etc etc

. No one actually know exact why , not start from p1.....

Don't presume....its the mother of all screw-up

P1 – P. Motoro
P2 – P. sp. "Aparico" possible hybrid motoro x P. sp. "Peru"
P3 – P. Motoro “Morph”
P4 – P. schroederi “Columbian ray”
P5 – P. sp. aff Motoro, P. sp. "B"
P6 – P. cf. Histrix, P. sp. "C"
P7 – P. Scobina(some scientist now say this is a P. orbignyi varaint)
P8 – P. sp. “Marmor”
P9 – P. Dumerilii
P10-P. Humerosa
P11-P. Orbignyi
P12-P. Henlei
P13-P. Leopoldi
P14-P. Leopoldi "Eclipse"
P15-Plesiotrygon Iwamae - “Antenna Ray”
P16-Plesiotrygon Iwamae - “Antenna Ray”
P17-Plesiotrygon sp."Blacktailed antenna ray"
P18-Plesiotrygon sp."Blacktailed antenna ray"
P19-P. sp. “Mantilla”
P20-P. sp. “Mantilla”
P21-P. sp. “Mantilla”
P22-P. sp. “Orange”
P23-P. Humerosa
P24-P. sp. “Marmor”
P25-P. Castexi “Otorongo”
P26-P. Castexi “Otorongo”
P27-P. Castexi “Estrella”
P28-P. Castexi “Otorongo”
P29-P. Castexi “Hawaiian”
P30-P. Castexi
P31-P. Castexi “Tigrinus”
P32-P. Castexi “Tigrinus”
P33-P. castexi "Estrella"
P34-P. castexi "Estrella"
P35-P. Castexi “Otorongo”
P36-P. Castexi “Motelo”
P37-P. Scobina “Belem ray”
P38-P. Scobina “Belem ray”
P39-P. Scobina “Belem ray”
P40-P. Schroederi here I would say same as P39, Belem ray
P41-P. Signata
P42-P. Dumerilii
P43-P. sp. “Chocolate”
P44-P. Motoro sp. “Morph”
P45-P. Schroederi “Sacha”
P46-P. Humerosa “Mosaic Ray”
P47-P. Dumerilii “Flower ray”
P48-P. Signata
P49-P. sp. "Tiger"
P50-P. sp. "Tiger"
P51-P. sp. "Tiger"
P52-P. sp. "Tiger"
P53-P. Falkneri
P54-P. Castexi “Carpet Ray”
P55-P. cf. Yepezi
P56-Paratrygon Aiereba “Ceja ray”
P57-Paratrygon Aiereba “Manzana”
P58-Potamotrygonidae gen.sp. "China ray"
P59-Potamotrygonidae gen.sp. "Coly ray"
P60-P. cf. Histrix
P61-P. Humerosa
P62-P. Leopoldi "Sao Felix

No P#'s (yet)
Potamotrygon sp."Pearl"
Potamotrygon sp.aff.dumerilii
Potamotrygon schuemacheri
Potamotrygon reticulata
Potamotrygon magdalenae
Potamotrygon ocellata
Potamotrygon garrapa
Potamotrygon constellata
Potamotrygon brachyura
Potamotrygon marinae