Rays

[Schmike]

Originally Posted by genki

Tonight lessons on stingray species by Schmike......LoL!
Thanks for the info!

when come to rays i still a noob. in total i only kept before 1 reticulated for < 2 mths. 1 motoro for ard 6 mths n now my MM for 6mths+ nia. still have a lot to learn. compared to most ray keepers i need to dig a hole to hide.

can only confirm after another 1-2wks when ciewie update his rays.

[marshy]

Additional information on FW stingrays sting.
The poison is not just at the tip (like in SW Rays).
FW rays are worst that even the serrated edge of the sting have poison.
This was only recently discovered by scientists.

Originally Posted by Schmike

the sting that sheds off will turn white. that is not poisonous anymore. its the layer of "skin" on the sting that contains the poison.



no need to worry as long as u take gd care of ur water.

i think i found the identity of ur ray.

what u got might b Potamotrygon orbignyi (also Potamotrygon reticulata which i was telling satan_gal)
http://fishbase.se/Summary/speciesSu...me=Reticulatus

extracted fr http://stingraysource.com/StingraySo...reticulata.htm:
However, R.S Rosa recently hypothesized that P. Reticulata is synonymous with Potamotrygon Orbignyi, and should be classified as such. Hobbyists have noted some morphological differences in what seems to be 2 separate sub-species, such as the tail structure varying from one specimen to the next. It is near impossible to use these physical characteristics in home aquaria as defining parameters in the variations, due to shipping damage of the tail structure. Other defining characteristics in the variations have been noted as well, including the pattern and coloration on the underside of one P. Reticulata, while this characteristic is unfound in some other varieties of P. Reticulata.

the marking looks nice... is it the same species with reticulata stingray? since also see retic and this pieces, they are totally different marking.

[Elindra]

Congrats ciewie!! You got rays ^^

[genki]

Originally Posted by Schmike

when come to rays i still a noob. in total i only kept before 1 reticulated for < 2 mths. 1 motoro for ard 6 mths n now my MM for 6mths+ nia. still have a lot to learn. compared to most ray keepers i need to dig a hole to hide.

can only confirm after another 1-2wks when ciewie update his rays.

Vice versa. It's great to share knowledge amongst ray hobbyists.
Never expected bro ciewie to keep rays somemore small pups nia……LoL!
He’s more to the monster type fish keeper for sure. Pretty soon, he’s gonna get some 20” rays to go with the flow.

Originally Posted by Elindra

Congrats ciewie!! You got rays ^^

have to............ my friends here keep poison and push me.................

[Schmike]

Originally Posted by ciewie

the marking looks nice... is it the same species with reticulata stingray? since also see retic and this pieces, they are totally different marking.

reticulated n orbignyi r suppose to b 2 "different" species. so the markings also not that similar.

Originally Posted by genki

Vice versa. It's great to share knowledge amongst ray hobbyists.
Never expected bro ciewie to keep rays somemore small pups nia……LoL!
He’s more to the monster type fish keeper for sure. Pretty soon, he’s gonna get some 20” rays to go with the flow.

not only rays actually. to me is anything. but most of the time i will ask my gd friend (Google) 1st.

like tigers, sakura, otorongo right?

[Elindra]

Originally Posted by ciewie

have to............ my friends here keep poison and push me.................

You must have got too many injections from the 2 evil S
I got back into rays due to their evilness too

Originally Posted by genki

Vice versa. It's great to share knowledge amongst ray hobbyists.
Never expected bro ciewie to keep rays somemore small pups nia……LoL!
He’s more to the monster type fish keeper for sure. Pretty soon, he’s gonna get some 20” rays to go with the flow.

dont tease me lah........ $$$ not enough, so buy small and cheap rays.

Originally Posted by Schmike

reticulated n orbignyi r suppose to b 2 "different" species. so the markings also not that similar.


not only rays actually. to me is anything. but most of the time i will ask my gd friend (Google) 1st.

like tigers, sakura, otorongo right?

thanks for finding out. it looks like the pic. u posted........................... hopefully, the marking more intense.

yeah, next collection is tigers, sakura, but made from wood.

[genki]

Originally Posted by Schmike

reticulated n orbignyi r suppose to b 2 "different" species. so the markings also not that similar.



not only rays actually. to me is anything. but most of the time i will ask my gd friend (Google) 1st.

like tigers, sakura, otorongo right?

Sakura or Tigers not advisable. With the amt of space, ponds, tanks he has, Otos or even big size motoros 18" up are great rays to start off with.
Bro ciewie..........let's a link for you. http://www.stingraysource.com/Stingr...e/pnumbers.htm