I call it a Royal BD!

[TOM32]

In order to compete and sell higher price, breeders have to create more beautiful rays. I suppose they do so by crossing the different type of black rays P12, P13 and P14. Example, to get more spots - use the P14 gene, to get bigger spots - use the P13 gene with big spots, the under belly and so on. After few generationsof selective breeding, it is difficult to judge the pureness.
Big spots henlei is also P12, BD is also P13, Galaxy is also P14...they are all black rays.
We can never complete this discussion while the breeders are still researching and continuing to create more beautiful rays.
Best is see the ray, nice pay more, so so pay less and not nice don't buy, is as simple as that. Most importantly don't over stretch yourself.

Regards

[ap99]

Originally Posted by TOM32

In order to compete and sell higher price, breeders have to create more beautiful rays. I suppose they do so by crossing the different type of black rays P12, P13 and P14. Example, to get more spots - use the P14 gene, to get bigger spots - use the P13 gene with big spots, the under belly and so on. After few generationsof selective breeding, it is difficult to judge the pureness.
Big spots henlei is also P12, BD is also P13, Galaxy is also P14...they are all black rays.
We can never complete this discussion while the breeders are still researching and continuing to create more beautiful rays.
Best is see the ray, nice pay more, so so pay less and not nice don't buy, is as simple as that. Most importantly don't over stretch yourself.

Regards

spot on leh tony hahaha

[TOM32]

Originally Posted by ap99

spot on leh tony hahaha

Hello Dennis, today so free? Heavy rain no harvest?
Althought i am very confused, i still prefer classic XB than tom yam lei.

Regards

[ap99]

Originally Posted by TOM32

Hello Dennis, today so free? Heavy rain no harvest?
Althought i am very confused, i still prefer classic XB than tom yam lei.

Regards

hi tony,..lck no heavy rain leh,...but went i see those wow wow wow hybrid
it seems the sky is the limit for hybrid ray man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but i still have to work on my pure strain cannot change much now too late lah

[AroBM]

Originally Posted by TOM32

In order to compete and sell higher price, breeders have to create more beautiful rays. I suppose they do so by crossing the different type of black rays P12, P13 and P14. Example, to get more spots - use the P14 gene, to get bigger spots - use the P13 gene with big spots, the under belly and so on. After few generationsof selective breeding, it is difficult to judge the pureness.
Big spots henlei is also P12, BD is also P13, Galaxy is also P14...they are all black rays.
We can never complete this discussion while the breeders are still researching and continuing to create more beautiful rays.
Best is see the ray, nice pay more, so so pay less and not nice don't buy, is as simple as that. Most importantly don't over stretch yourself.

Regards

Well said .. I don't really particular on pure breed .. but I do have some pure blood in my breeding pool ( I think It is a must ). I like those monster hybrid some are more beautiful than a normal Black ray..For the price .. Lets market decide ..buyer feel price ok then tapao , not ok don't tapao loh ..no hard feeling (but sometime price still can "chamsiong" one lah just be nice to breeder u might get some special offer )

[azon]

Originally Posted by Tay

Master ur head lah! The last time I open my smelly mouth kana wash hor
It is damn hard to produce such nice hybrid, thus wont be cheap lah. However, many will use hybrid as an excuse to "press" price so they can buy cheap. End of the day, breeders so angry just create a nice name like rayal galaxy lah, big big spots pdr lah, so as to sell at much much higher price. But buyers love it leh

"press" price than breeder don't sell lor, not every pcs come out like that ma. If it's mould out in a mass production factory than must sell by per kilograms..

I won't comment on royal galaxy or big spot pdr cos after all it's still black rays..

[azon]

Originally Posted by ap99

have to agree see fish buy fish lah,...i feel to achive a nice pcs of hybrid is
even more harder than getting a nice pcs of pure breed lor

well said, it takes many years of selective breeding to reach this kinda standard.

[azon]

Originally Posted by ap99

hi tony,..lck no heavy rain leh,...but went i see those wow wow wow hybrid
it seems the sky is the limit for hybrid ray man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but i still have to work on my pure strain cannot change much now too late lah

why you go see hybrid ray never jio me??????:mad

[TOM32]

Originally Posted by AroBM

Well said .. I don't really particular on pure breed .. but I do have some pure blood in my breeding pool ( I think It is a must ). I like those monster hybrid some are more beautiful than a normal Black ray..For the price .. Lets market decide ..buyer feel price ok then tapao , not ok don't tapao loh ..no hard feeling (but sometime price still can "chamsiong" one lah just be nice to breeder u might get some special offer )

Buying pure classis you can creat your own black hybrids and at the same time can also choose get pure pups. Or we jump start to buy hybrid of f1 or 2 and mix with pure. This will be fun and interesting for hobbyist too. If lucky you get one "superd" hybrid black ray. A tokong and only ONE kind looking black hybrid may not come cheap and will be likely more expensive than a pure one. Will this be the trend in future ray keeping?


I buy you kopi, can i "chamsiong" for 32% discount

Regards

[TOM32]

Originally Posted by ap99

hi tony,..lck no heavy rain leh,...but went i see those wow wow wow hybrid
it seems the sky is the limit for hybrid ray man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but i still have to work on my pure strain cannot change much now too late lah

Bro Dennis

Copi C, copi O, copi, copi tarek, all are copi. How you change also got copi. Some like copi c, some like copi o and so on. I prefer Malaysia local copi o. How come your side no rain???

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