Bukit Batok By-Election - Page 16

Auratus · 08-05-2016, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by richardg

WP will get wiped out next GE

The future of Sg is doomed.

hkh · 08-05-2016, 11:26 AM

AIM was exposed when WP took Aljuined GRC...........and the drop in votes for PAP means they still must work harder to stay in power......... It's a win win situation for Singaporeeans.......

richardg · 08-05-2016, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Auratus

The future of Sg is doomed.

we will remain the same
richest or near the top rich country in the world....
most expensive for expats

rich will still be rich, rich buy many cars.. parked at home
poor will still be faraway from the rich... poor cant afford car
govt will extract as much from the people as possible and return a bit to them under guise of doing good but me think its just for political control.
life goes on as usual
no doom but no light at the end of the tunnel for the poor, but no worse dont think

CrazyFish · 08-05-2016, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ong88

Bkt Merah central the Carpark behind Subway and KFC, smelly like hell.
4th world, never smell so bad even when I visit 3rd world.
Must give feedback

Alamak , I thought this will happen when Opposition wins ...

PAP ... hmm .... they will know your & solve your problems during election . After , wanna find them is worse than strike 4D la .

streetsmart73 · 08-05-2016, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by hkh

AIM was exposed when WP took Aljuined GRC...........and the drop in votes for PAP means they still must work harder to stay in power......... It's a win win situation for Singaporeeans.......

In a nutshell, check n balance; some reliable 2nd voice for the people

hkh · 08-05-2016, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by streetsmart73

In a nutshell, check n balance; some reliable 2nd voice for the people

Yes......but a lot of people don't want these voices to represent their own wards........

globalcookie · 08-05-2016, 03:30 PM

Singapore Democratic Party (SDP) chief Chee Soon Juan said the Bukit Batok by-election campaign was an uphill battle, given that he was up against the combined might of “the media” and “the state machinery” in an “undemocratic society”.

Chee said his fellow party members could hold their heads high as they had run a clean campaign, unlike the PAP which had campaigned on “false headlines”.

He added that he was “very encouraged” by the vote swing towards the SDP and also pledged to continue to be active in Bukit Batok, in order to garner more support for the party.

The political veteran won 38.8 per cent of the vote in the Single-Member Constituency, losing out to the People’s Action Party (PAP) candidate Murali Pillai’s 61.2 per cent of the 23,570 valid votes cast.

This was a significant improvement on the results from the 2015 General Election, when SDP candidate Sadasivam Veriyah garnered just over 26 per cent of the vote.

After the results came in on Saturday (7 May) night, Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong wrote on Facebook: “This is not just a win for Bukit Batok, but shows all Singaporeans, and others too, that the government and people are united in a building a better nation together.”

Speaking to reporters at a doorstop, Chee responded to Lee’s comments: “If you wanted to say this and you campaigned on this, and you won on this, it’s a very different story. But when you campaign on false headlines, what else can you say? When Wanbao does things like that and people start all these kinds of smear (efforts)… and then you say you want to appeal to a better nation?”

The SDP chief was alluding to a Lianhe Wanbao article that had said Chee was proud of his “crazy past”. The headline was later amended when Chee denied uttering that phrase.

He added in Mandarin: “I cannot understand it, how the journalist and editor managed to print a headline based on something I did not say. If we had a professional media with high standards, this would be a sackable offence.”

Bukit Batok by-election: SDP Polling Day highlights
Watch highlights from the Singapore Democratic Party gathering site at Bukit Gombak Stadium on Polling Day (7 May) for the Bukit Batok by-election.
(Video by Jeremy Ho)

The supporters speak

A party volunteer, who declined to be named as he was not authorised to speak to the media, said he was disheartened as he thought Chee had a “fighting chance” against Murali. He added: “We will carry on doing the ground work, and see what the next party objective is.”

Actress Neo Swee Lin, who spoke at one of the SDP’s rallies, told Yahoo Singapore that she was hopeful despite the result. “I know Dr Chee will keep coming back. I have hope because there were more voting for the SDP this time,” she said.

View photos
SDP supporters react following the release of the by-election results. (Photo: Joseph Nair)

Analysts weigh in

Sharing his thoughts on the by-election results, National University of Singapore political scientist Reuben Wong said: “I think the SDP’s vote share was disappointing for them because they were playing to win and… were quite far off the mark. For me you need to hit 40 per cent.”

He noted that the vote swing was “not a big deal” as the “by-election effect in Singapore is strong”, with the PAP having lost every by-election for single-seat wards since 1981.

Regarding Chee’s leadership of the SDP, Wong said: “If he (Chee) continues leading the SDP and they continue to have these kinds of results in elections, there will probably be numbers in the party looking for a change in leadership. People don’t want to be in a losing team.”

He added: “My suspicion is that somebody who doesn’t attract that kind of negative vibe as Chee Soon Juan would have done better.”

Also weighing in was Singapore Management University law don Eugene Tan, who said that the SDP “came out better” for all their efforts in the by-election.

“Given that he (Chee) was able to move one out of 10 voters who voted for the PAP just eight months ago, (which) contributed to his best electoral performance … he can claim it was a successful campaign,” he said.

Despite not hitting the 40 per cent mark in terms of the vote share, Tan said the results give the Chee a “good base on which he can build”.

“I think he (Chee) needs to stop moving around… He needs to show his sincerity and commitment to one constituency,” he said.

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whats your take on the results?

Has e Screwig other ppl Wife hit voters?
The familee spat?
Ppl whom voted for Dr Chee trust he can put in tough questions?
Swing in percentage within your expectation?

I seems to wonder if that Rubeun Wong is a mouthpiece for them to sow discord among SDP?

globalcookie · 08-05-2016, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ong88

Bkt Merah central the Carpark behind Subway and KFC, smelly like hell.
4th world, never smell so bad even when I visit 3rd world.
Must give feedback

Lorkon, that's not enonly bad spot... The loading unloading Bay behind NTUC, opposite e Swimming pool also like some third world kampung.

This area under which GRC?

Auratus · 08-05-2016, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richardg

we will remain the same
richest or near the top rich country in the world....
most expensive for expats

rich will still be rich, rich buy many cars.. parked at home
poor will still be faraway from the rich... poor cant afford car
govt will extract as much from the people as possible and return a bit to them under guise of doing good but me think its just for political control.
life goes on as usual
no doom but no light at the end of the tunnel for the poor, but no worse dont think

Using car as a measurement of wealth, is not correct. How do we define Rich? A man in a village can be considered rich as he has a Yamaha, as nobody else have it. However he is poor compared to a city folk that owns a Mercedes and it goes on. So Rich is a relative term, a measurement depending from which level one is making the reference.

Who determine that Singapore is the richest in the world? If we seek the answer from poor families here, we will arrive at a different result. However, if we seek to glorify ourselves as being riches in the world then just reference to the super rich here. According to research, the majority of the world wealth is in the hand of only 10% of the population. So is the glorification correct?

Is Singapore really rich? Are we at Swiss standard of living? Do you really feel rich looking at the CPF statement? Do you really feel rich that our apartment/HDB is being valued at hundreds of thousand to million? What is the level of our domestic debt?

It is the future that is important, not the report of how rich is Singapore. The national pledge we take everyday from young till NS, has become very deceiving.

hkh · 08-05-2016, 03:59 PM

In the past, PAP had made a big fuss to support their GRC policy but actually their rather new minority candidate can still win in SMC even with a strong Chinese opponent.........

08-05-2016, 03:30 PM	#157
globalcookie Dragon Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,446	Singapore Democratic Party (SDP) chief Chee Soon Juan said the Bukit Batok by-election campaign was an uphill battle, given that he was up against the combined might of “the media” and “the state machinery” in an “undemocratic society”. Chee said his fellow party members could hold their heads high as they had run a clean campaign, unlike the PAP which had campaigned on “false headlines”. He added that he was “very encouraged” by the vote swing towards the SDP and also pledged to continue to be active in Bukit Batok, in order to garner more support for the party. The political veteran won 38.8 per cent of the vote in the Single-Member Constituency, losing out to the People’s Action Party (PAP) candidate Murali Pillai’s 61.2 per cent of the 23,570 valid votes cast. This was a significant improvement on the results from the 2015 General Election, when SDP candidate Sadasivam Veriyah garnered just over 26 per cent of the vote. After the results came in on Saturday (7 May) night, Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong wrote on Facebook: “This is not just a win for Bukit Batok, but shows all Singaporeans, and others too, that the government and people are united in a building a better nation together.” Speaking to reporters at a doorstop, Chee responded to Lee’s comments: “If you wanted to say this and you campaigned on this, and you won on this, it’s a very different story. But when you campaign on false headlines, what else can you say? When Wanbao does things like that and people start all these kinds of smear (efforts)… and then you say you want to appeal to a better nation?” The SDP chief was alluding to a Lianhe Wanbao article that had said Chee was proud of his “crazy past”. The headline was later amended when Chee denied uttering that phrase. He added in Mandarin: “I cannot understand it, how the journalist and editor managed to print a headline based on something I did not say. If we had a professional media with high standards, this would be a sackable offence.” Bukit Batok by-election: SDP Polling Day highlights Watch highlights from the Singapore Democratic Party gathering site at Bukit Gombak Stadium on Polling Day (7 May) for the Bukit Batok by-election. (Video by Jeremy Ho) The supporters speak A party volunteer, who declined to be named as he was not authorised to speak to the media, said he was disheartened as he thought Chee had a “fighting chance” against Murali. He added: “We will carry on doing the ground work, and see what the next party objective is.” Actress Neo Swee Lin, who spoke at one of the SDP’s rallies, told Yahoo Singapore that she was hopeful despite the result. “I know Dr Chee will keep coming back. I have hope because there were more voting for the SDP this time,” she said. View photos SDP supporters react following the release of the by-election results. (Photo: Joseph Nair) Analysts weigh in Sharing his thoughts on the by-election results, National University of Singapore political scientist Reuben Wong said: “I think the SDP’s vote share was disappointing for them because they were playing to win and… were quite far off the mark. For me you need to hit 40 per cent.” He noted that the vote swing was “not a big deal” as the “by-election effect in Singapore is strong”, with the PAP having lost every by-election for single-seat wards since 1981. Regarding Chee’s leadership of the SDP, Wong said: “If he (Chee) continues leading the SDP and they continue to have these kinds of results in elections, there will probably be numbers in the party looking for a change in leadership. People don’t want to be in a losing team.” He added: “My suspicion is that somebody who doesn’t attract that kind of negative vibe as Chee Soon Juan would have done better.” Also weighing in was Singapore Management University law don Eugene Tan, who said that the SDP “came out better” for all their efforts in the by-election. “Given that he (Chee) was able to move one out of 10 voters who voted for the PAP just eight months ago, (which) contributed to his best electoral performance … he can claim it was a successful campaign,” he said. Despite not hitting the 40 per cent mark in terms of the vote share, Tan said the results give the Chee a “good base on which he can build”. “I think he (Chee) needs to stop moving around… He needs to show his sincerity and commitment to one constituency,” he said. ------------------ whats your take on the results? Has e Screwig other ppl Wife hit voters? The familee spat? Ppl whom voted for Dr Chee trust he can put in tough questions? Swing in percentage within your expectation? I seems to wonder if that Rubeun Wong is a mouthpiece for them to sow discord among SDP? Last edited by globalcookie; 08-05-2016 at 03:34 PM.

08-05-2016, 11:26 AM	#152
hkh Arofanatic Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 113	AIM was exposed when WP took Aljuined GRC...........and the drop in votes for PAP means they still must work harder to stay in power......... It's a win win situation for Singaporeeans.......

08-05-2016, 03:59 PM	#160
hkh Arofanatic Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 113	In the past, PAP had made a big fuss to support their GRC policy but actually their rather new minority candidate can still win in SMC even with a strong Chinese opponent.........

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