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Old 09-07-2009, 02:51 PM   #11
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just to add on, even though initial cycle may be complete, it is always good to add livestock in stages and not one shot. reason being that the BB that has been cultivated is only able to handle the bioload at that moment in time. it needs more time to cultivate a bigger population to handle a higher bioload. that said, the amount of biomedia must also be enough to match the population increase required.
so if livestock is increased too fast, the tank may undergo a mini cycle.
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Old 09-07-2009, 03:09 PM   #12
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Have you done a nitrate and the PH test yet?
Also hows your water temperature like when its at the hottest?
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Old 09-07-2009, 03:15 PM   #13
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me going to set up a new tank

using fully distilled water

~ and see how will the results

turn out to be~

Ever tried it on marine Sps tank~ which of course

10 times more harder then keeping all this so call shrimps

and it works perfectly fine

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Old 09-07-2009, 03:20 PM   #14
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me going to set up a new tank

using fully distilled water

~ and see how will the results

turn out to be~

Ever tried it on marine Sps tank~ which of course

10 times more harder then keeping all this so call shrimps

and it works perfectly fine

it might work out only if u do not have new soil in ur tank.. good luck to ur set up and keep us updated..
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Old 09-07-2009, 04:21 PM   #15
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me going to set up a new tank

using fully distilled water

~ and see how will the results

turn out to be~

Ever tried it on marine Sps tank~ which of course

10 times more harder then keeping all this so call shrimps

and it works perfectly fine

SPS and CRS totally different species. please don't assume what works for one will work for the other.

marine tank can have denitrator, skimmer, FR, CR, ozoniser, UV etc to help you out. for shrimps tank, most of the above equipment does not come into the picture. so best to be on the cautious side.
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Old 10-07-2009, 01:49 PM   #16
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Have you done a nitrate and the PH test yet?
Also hows your water temperature like when its at the hottest?
I done only PH test which fall in the range of 6 to 6.5. I add in quite a few frogbits and mosses hoping to absorb a bit of the nitrate and i also add in nutrifying bateria and PSB hoping to absorb the ammonia and nitrate as well. I do have bio rings in my hang on filter for the bateria's home.
Btw what is the difference between nitrate and nitrite?
Now i have wash out my soil by putting vinegar to kill the planeria/slug and already rinse it with tap water a few times. Does it mean that i have to recycle my tank for 1 month then able to put in the shrimp again? I kept more than half on the existing water plus some aged water into the tank and start cycling this morning and the water is very cloudy at this moment due to the water mixed with the soil.
I already put my plants (frogbits and mosses) in already while recycling my tank. Will the cloudy water affect my plants???
Pardon me for all those noob questions as i just started off this interest.
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Old 10-07-2009, 02:17 PM   #17
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me going to set up a new tank

using fully distilled water

~ and see how will the results

turn out to be~

Ever tried it on marine Sps tank~ which of course

10 times more harder then keeping all this so call shrimps

and it works perfectly fine

I tested the GH of distilled, is 1 to 2. Will the water be too soften for keeping shrimps?
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Old 10-07-2009, 02:21 PM   #18
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I done only PH test which fall in the range of 6 to 6.5. I add in quite a few frogbits and mosses hoping to absorb a bit of the nitrate and i also add in nutrifying bateria and PSB hoping to absorb the ammonia and nitrate as well. I do have bio rings in my hang on filter for the bateria's home.
Btw what is the difference between nitrate and nitrite?
Now i have wash out my soil by putting vinegar to kill the planeria/slug and already rinse it with tap water a few times. Does it mean that i have to recycle my tank for 1 month then able to put in the shrimp again? I kept more than half on the existing water plus some aged water into the tank and start cycling this morning and the water is very cloudy at this moment due to the water mixed with the soil.
I already put my plants (frogbits and mosses) in already while recycling my tank. Will the cloudy water affect my plants???
Pardon me for all those noob questions as i just started off this interest.
you rinsed you GEX soil? no need to do that.
you should have just left your tank alone for a couple of weeks. let the filter run, with plants and lights all as per normal. then after 2 weeks, do a 50% water change. after which slowly add your livestock one batch per week.
you have effectively put everything back to square one.
just let your tank cycle for the time being.

tank cycle in very simple terms

1-10 days = ammonia appears and spikes
10-15 days = ammonia decreases and turns to nitrite. nitrite spike
15-21 days = nitrite decrease and turns to nitrates.
21 days ~ = do WC and can add livestock slowly. start weekly WC to keep nitrates in check.

ammonia and nitrites should be undetectable (near zero) in a cycled tank as they are toxic to fauna. cannot say zero as test kits may not be able to pick up minute levels.
nitrates are less toxic and will only cause problems at high levels.
plants take in ammonia as primary food source. if not present like in a cycled tank, it will take in nitrates instead. so adding frogbits is good as it loves nitrates.
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Old 10-07-2009, 02:23 PM   #19
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I tested the GH of distilled, is 1 to 2. Will the water be too soften for keeping shrimps?
your shrimps may have molting problems.
when using distilled water or RODI water, we need to add back the lost minerals.
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Old 10-07-2009, 02:28 PM   #20
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I done only PH test which fall in the range of 6 to 6.5. I add in quite a few frogbits and mosses hoping to absorb a bit of the nitrate and i also add in nutrifying bateria and PSB hoping to absorb the ammonia and nitrate as well. I do have bio rings in my hang on filter for the bateria's home.
Btw what is the difference between nitrate and nitrite?
Now i have wash out my soil by putting vinegar to kill the planeria/slug and already rinse it with tap water a few times. Does it mean that i have to recycle my tank for 1 month then able to put in the shrimp again? I kept more than half on the existing water plus some aged water into the tank and start cycling this morning and the water is very cloudy at this moment due to the water mixed with the soil.
I already put my plants (frogbits and mosses) in already while recycling my tank. Will the cloudy water affect my plants???
Pardon me for all those noob questions as i just started off this interest.
The fine soil might settled on ur plant, suggest u take ur plant out your plant may not be able to get enough light if the soil settle on them (tts happen to me b4), let the soil settle, add a pack of carbon in ur filter and let your tank cycle. You may put in the plant gently once the soil settle.

To prevent the mess when u add water to the soil, u may cover the soil with a plastic sheet and pour gently on the plastic sheet. Thats wat i do, or use the ada matter, stick a water hose into the soil and release slow flowing water into the tank.

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