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Old 07-12-2003, 01:01 AM   #11
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Thanks Edwin for your reply. So have to use transmore to make Aro drousy, take Aro out of tank & then rub PP on affected area. How to dilute the PP, how diluted must it be.

Have you personally tried it on your Aro?

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Yeah...tried a couple of times before. Let the fish sleep and pp rub. I have diluted 4 parts of pp to 1 part of water (4:1). In my case, healing took about a week.
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Old 07-12-2003, 10:03 AM   #12
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I'm now treating my 15" Aro for white spots. My house temp. is always around 29 to 31 degrees, so when I use white spot medication, it didn't seem to help cos' I did not use heater.

Yesterday, I started anther dose of treatment & this time I put in a heater and set it to 32 degrees but water temperature in the tank is now around 34 degrees (although heater is set at 32).

The white spots seems to be recovering better as compared to previous treatment. This time I intend to leave heater at 32 degrees & prolong treatment for up to 14 days and will update bros on the outcome.

A LFS owner told me that Aros can take up to 36 degrees with medication. Any comments from bros?
there is no reason for white spot medication to fail if you have followed the instructions properly, heater is not really necc in the treatment. u need to understand the white spot cycle to begin with.

PP can be another alternative but i believe they can only kill off white spots when they are in the free swimming stage, not the ones still on the body.

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Old 12-12-2003, 06:48 PM   #13
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there is no reason for white spot medication to fail if you have followed the instructions properly, heater is not really necc in the treatment. u need to understand the white spot cycle to begin with.

PP can be another alternative but i believe they can only kill off white spots when they are in the free swimming stage, not the ones still on the body.
So how do we kill those white spots on the body, how many days of white spot treatment, or is the Interpet White Spot treatment ineffective for white spots on the body that have been around for about 6 months already (as in my Aro's case).
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Old 13-12-2003, 06:28 PM   #14
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Can view disease in my gallery, last picture! Up till today, 9 days already on Interpet white spot treatment but still the same, anyone knows how long to treat Aro. I intend to treat it for about 16 to 21 days.

Next alternative, maybe PP bombing or scrub but scared my Aro KO!
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Old 13-12-2003, 08:17 PM   #15
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Can view disease in my gallery, last picture! Up till today, 9 days already on Interpet white spot treatment but still the same, anyone knows how long to treat Aro. I intend to treat it for about 16 to 21 days.

Next alternative, maybe PP bombing or scrub but scared my Aro KO!
These too big to be whitespots, thus treatment for whitespot is not appropriate. Probably can try Japanese yellow powder instead. It can treat broader spectrum of diseases, from fungus to external bacterials ailments.
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On 2nd thought, such infection probably due to poor water condition. Improving water condition (could be dirty filter medias, etc) & increasing salt content to 0.3% may help.

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Old 14-12-2003, 10:08 PM   #16
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These too big to be whitespots, thus treatment for whitespot is not appropriate. Probably can try Japanese yellow powder instead. It can treat broader spectrum of diseases, from fungus to external bacterials ailments.
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On 2nd thought, such infection probably due to poor water condition. Improving water condition (could be dirty filter medias, etc) & increasing salt content to 0.3% may help.
Thanks again Ken for your reply. If the Interpet White Spot treatment does not work, I may probably try Japanese yellow powder (the one with goldfish & coi picture) right? I tried many types of medicine (Interpet Anti-fungus, Melafix, secret recipe medicine by Amazon) but all didn't work. Forgot that I have not tried this yet.

Will this yellow powder kill all the good bacteria in the filter medium? Long time ago, I killed a Pearl Aro with yellow powder due to overdose, this time I'll be more careful.

I think my water condition should be OK cos' I change water (30%) once a week.

BTW, your Red Aro (esrDec) is beautiful! How big and how old is she? Cheers!
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Old 14-12-2003, 11:43 PM   #17
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Thanks again Ken for your reply. If the Interpet White Spot treatment does not work, I may probably try Japanese yellow powder (the one with goldfish & coi picture) right? I tried many types of medicine (Interpet Anti-fungus, Melafix, secret recipe medicine by Amazon) but all didn't work. Forgot that I have not tried this yet.

Will this yellow powder kill all the good bacteria in the filter medium? Long time ago, I killed a Pearl Aro with yellow powder due to overdose, this time I'll be more careful.

I think my water condition should be OK cos' I change water (30%) once a week.

BTW, your Red Aro (esrDec) is beautiful! How big and how old is she? Cheers!
Yeah...must be careful not to overdose.
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Old 15-12-2003, 03:13 PM   #18
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Thanks again Ken for your reply. If the Interpet White Spot treatment does not work, I may probably try Japanese yellow powder (the one with goldfish & coi picture) right? I tried many types of medicine (Interpet Anti-fungus, Melafix, secret recipe medicine by Amazon) but all didn't work. Forgot that I have not tried this yet.

Will this yellow powder kill all the good bacteria in the filter medium? Long time ago, I killed a Pearl Aro with yellow powder due to overdose, this time I'll be more careful.

I think my water condition should be OK cos' I change water (30%) once a week.

BTW, your Red Aro (esrDec) is beautiful! How big and how old is she? Cheers!
Sometimes, such problem can go away by itself if water condition improve. U probably need more frequent water changes/filter cleaning. Increase dissolve oxygen content with aeration stone will help too.

Yellow powder medication is good against bacterial problem, & will has effect on bb. Advise to clean the filter thoroughly a few days before medication. Think that will keep filter lean & thus less liketly to cause severe water fouling when yellow powder is added. Just add YP until water is light yellowish tinted. Shouldn't kill the aro unless overdosed.

I would think PP bombing a better choice to start with here, & u may may need to repeat it for 4 or 5 times, once a week. Give it a try, just make sure that u stop filtration, add additional aeration pump/stone, follow tantc procedures, & 25% water changes at the end of treatment. Once u gain the experience, it will help u in future need if your more expensive aro ever need treatment like this.

Thanks for the compliment. This ESR is about 1.5 years old (tagging date). With me for almost 8 months, & now about 17.5 inches length. Think it look more impressive in pic than actual.
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Old 15-12-2003, 03:25 PM   #19
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Before you start the PP bombings, a pt to note is the anti-chlorine(sodium thiosulphate) we use. The presence of the latter, just like hydrogen peroxide, will erase any effects of PP.

I've tried the regimented 3 PP dosage within a week. Normally the effects on the fish for the first treatment is minimal. However some stress is caused on the fish for the 2nd and 3rd treatment. I did all this in my attempt to 'cure' tail bitings. Increase areation is a MUST.
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Before you start the PP bombings, a pt to note is the anti-chlorine(sodium thiosulphate) we use. The presence of the latter, just like hydrogen peroxide, will erase any effects of PP.

I've tried the regimented 3 PP dosage within a week. Normally the effects on the fish for the first treatment is minimal. However some stress is caused on the fish for the 2nd and 3rd treatment. I did all this in my attempt to 'cure' tail bitings. Increase areation is a MUST.
Care to share your experience on treatment for tail bitings? Does PP bombing help in this instance?
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