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26-01-2012, 05:53 PM | #31 |
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12-04-2016, 07:58 PM | #32 |
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Just heard on news.
Johor's reservoir (providing to singapore) reaches new low, 37% level only. Will we face water crisis soon? |
12-04-2016, 08:23 PM | #33 |
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Think we have more options now than before........Marina Barrage, Newater & Desalination plants........maybe Johor will buy water from us.......
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12-04-2016, 08:40 PM | #34 |
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12-04-2016, 10:20 PM | #35 |
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I don't know what is the big issue on the water. We are surrounded by seawater all round. It's only matter of converting from seawater to freshwater, I know a lot of energy involves which could be partial offset by solar energy.
There were even some water project which involves in tanker going to open sea to convert and transport the fresh water back to mainland. Water level will rise further due to melting ice. Also we should consider cloud seeding, only thing is the sudden change of wind direction which will end up in the sea. In Malaysia, many metal water pipes are beyond their useful life and not replace, so a lot of leaks/wastage and when you pay peanuts for water, how to change mindset? |
13-04-2016, 12:35 PM | #36 |
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As the chief of ministry of environment, he has at least two much more pressing problems to solve. 1) littering/rubbish and 2) mosquito/dengue to solve. So far I dun see much improvement.
Drought problem is less pressing as we already have have certain means like distilling water from sea water and new water tech to cope. |
13-04-2016, 01:58 PM | #37 |
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Because we have not reach the need to do water rationing in last 3 decades or so, we dont know how pressing this water issue is. WATER, the basic needs for life! In india, water rationing even sees young woman fighting old woman in her 70s. So, water not pressing issue, what is?
This mosquito issue has existed since pre-industralization (in fact, even since civilisation). Yes people gets dengue and people dies. But it is separate issues. Minister may talk abt mosquito and rubbish, that is part of what he is in charge of. But talking about these doesn't take away the real priority. Desalination is easy so we think. How much commitment is needed, how long does it take to setup, what are the real reasons why it is not implemented aggressively till now? Why are desalination water used for industrial only till recently (or still) and not much for consumption? Why? There must be reasons why it is not pump into our taps. The latest desalination, they are talking about setting up on those refinery islands than use fresh water for their cooling facilities. For this whole water issue, I think the gov is on turbo charged mode than we think. When they built marina barrage, some flooding happened and all e fingers flies at them. But now that water is running low, ppl asked why not this why not that. I may not like PAP, but there are many things they done right, than wrong. |
13-04-2016, 03:56 PM | #38 |
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Dun waste water campaign can be re intro then, I know last time very effective when people trust the government a lot. Personally I always minimize water usage, so such campaign will have minimal effect on me. And I love the environment a lot.
We r facing water problem with current population yet still planning to increase even more population is a good idea? Last edited by millenium; 13-04-2016 at 04:01 PM. |
13-04-2016, 04:18 PM | #39 |
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The increase in population is a White Paper. Yes it will go ahead in a matter of time and I am very sure they are solving the problem before they open the gates again.
Water problem is very real and we have faced this problem even during Dr M's time. Tho now the M'sian side doesn't threaten us saying they will turned off the tap, but we know the treaty will lapse in a matter of a few decades and the gov is very anxious about making sure we are water sufficient. The last time we had water rationing was in the early 60s, before most of us were born. We don't know the difficulties or inconveniences. There were a few small rationing in the 80s too. The last time water rationing ideas were brought up was in Jan 2015, during last year's dry spell. |
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