scales turning black

[Hobbit6003]

Hi cloudyrain,

Thanks for the update!

Yup, as Fred would probably pointed out, that the problem with our tapwater now is that there're some unknown additives in there. In some instances, cloudy and inflammed eye had been attributed to bromine poisoning.

The good indication that there maybe possibly a high concentration of additives like chloramine, would be the pH of the tapwater. A reading of 8.0 or higher is indicative enough.

And yes, it is best to pre-filter the tapwater, as there are additives that cannot be removed by a dechlorinator.

As Fred had mentioned a while ago, he is getting more of such cases these days, with different types of fishes showing different clinical presentations, but mostly of the same etiology.

Haha, let me ask Fred to participate here, then we all get free consultation!

Thanks cloudyrain for the update!

Cheers,

Kenny

Originally posted by cloudyrain
yo tes, thanks....

yes, i add water directly from the tap...

like u, i also change small % frequently.... around 1% at least 2 times a week.... sometimes more when i'm free....

but for my new aro, i changed no more than 0.6% during each of the 2 water changes in the past week.... (vet asked me, so i calculated at the vet's place)

i brought this up to the doc too, cos i believe there's nothing wrong with my water changing ritual.... (frequency v %)

however, he say the aro may have been affected when i'm topping up... (ie. the aro swim to where the tap water is being added in.... so it's akin to having big percentage water change with tap water)

this shd be the situation in my case cos for convenience sake, i did not ensure that the tap water was added in while the fish is nowhere near....

vil, u got change water at all?

i just did yesterday but it seems like have to take greater precaution, seems like antichlorine/amine may not be enuff.

hoping for speedy recovery now, catch up with you tonite

Originally posted by cloudyrain


if dun wan use activated carbon, age tap water for at least 3 days....

can confirm this line?

cos i doubt some of the impurities can escape via evaporation
if i am not wrong, chloroamine is quite stable too

[calvin15]

In future, owner with large tank will have more trouble changing water. Imagine a 6ft to 8ft tank, how much water to change each time?

vil, i asking if u got change water before you notice the symptoms....

i asked doc, if i dun wana use activated carbon, can just use aged water? he say unless i can age the water for more than 3 days....

btw tes, the doc got mentioned: dun trust genesis or anti-chlorine....

kenny, ask him to join in is best lar!!!!! i had to use 5 expressways to get to his place!!! PIE, KJE, BKE then SLE finally TPE.... jln bahar and jln kayu one word different only!!!! &#^*(%$@%

[TES]

Thanks for the warning Cloudyrain. Did U ask him which brand is reliable or not ?

Wah... using activated carbon is too siong on the pocket leh. Guess will use the 3days+genesis method for now until there is a better solution.

Originally posted by cloudyrain
vil, i asking if u got change water before you notice the symptoms....

i asked doc, if i dun wana use activated carbon, can just use aged water? he say unless i can age the water for more than 3 days....

btw tes, the doc got mentioned: dun trust genesis or anti-chlorine....

kenny, ask him to join in is best lar!!!!! i had to use 5 expressways to get to his place!!! PIE, KJE, BKE then SLE finally TPE.... jln bahar and jln kayu one word different only!!!! &#^*(%$@%

i cant really remember
maybe i did add in some new water but definitely no major water changes before that


thanks to you man
dun worry lah
ur efforts not wasted, will treat you with something better than coke
haha

[calvin15]

Originally posted by Vil
i cant really remember
maybe i did add in some new water but definitely no major water changes before that


thanks to you man
dun worry lah
ur efforts not wasted, will treat you with something better than coke
haha

haha..u must be relieved now?

Originally posted by calvin15
haha..u must be relieved now?

only relieved when they are back to normal health

have used activated carbon to filter my tank water..... hopefully all the toxins will be absorbed.....

started the salt treatment at the same time..... hope he'll get well soon....

my poor fish in his treatment tank..... i cannot sleep cos very sad....