Earth Eaters Part 2

[ziw3i]

just sharing
sorry for the poor quality...

YouTube Video

[nicktc]

Picked up some contaminants from a tank of Daemon at JZX.
Caught from the same location as the Daemon, anyone knows what they are?

Most of them look like this




There is just this one piece that look slightly different

[illumnae]

Potentially S. papaterra? Anal fin colouration and face bronzey look seem to match up. Compare with photos here:

http://www.britishcichlid.org.uk/php....php?f=6&t=177

[nicktc]

Originally Posted by illumnae

Potentially S. papaterra? Anal fin colouration and face bronzey look seem to match up. Compare with photos here:

http://www.britishcichlid.org.uk/php....php?f=6&t=177

Whao, you are good.

The last fish sure looks like those in the link.

What about the rest? They definitely look different.
You reckon they are S. mapiritensis?

[illumnae]

The rest are probably S. mapiritensis or S. jurupari (or cf. jurupari). Got to wait and see how they develop I think.

[frontosa]

There are too many variants and yes, really too hard to tell at this juvenile stage. Be interesting to see how they turn out though.

[Iceman77]

Sharing a few pictures of me EE.

[Flavs]

Originally Posted by Iceman77

Sharing a few pictures of me EE.

This is the one from AH?

Quote:
Originally Posted by illumnae
Potentially S. papaterra? Anal fin colouration and face bronzey look seem to match up. Compare with photos here:

http://www.britishcichlid.org.uk/php....php?f=6&t=177

Whao, you are good.

The last fish sure looks like those in the link.

What about the rest? They definitely look different.
You reckon they are S. mapiritensis?

Thomas Wedner (I finally got back the book last two weeks! ):
"Satanoperca pappaterra (Heckel, 1840) is described as having six black spots along the base of the dorsal and, below these, a dark horizontal band from the gill to the caudal peduncle.... the head is generally golden yellow and has no stripes or pattern of light spots. The body exhibits no markings apart from the striking patterns of stripes and spots on a silver to yellowishish background........anal, ...lower part of the caudal, and the ventrals have a reddish tinge. "
Doesn't look like Satanoperca pappaterra based on the pics posted.

Weidner also says S. Pappaterra has a "small black spot, occupying only a few scales, on the upper edge of the caudal base".
Weidner on the Jurupari: "...There is a more or less large ocellus on the cadual peduncle."
Some of the fishes posted has an ocellus (a ring around a black spot) rather than a small black spot.

"Jurupari is the most widespread cichlid in South America, ....entire Amazon basin ...including Rio Negro, the Ucalyali drainage in Peru, the upper Rio Paraguay drainage, the Rio Guapore in Boliva, and the Orinoco drainage in Venezuela.....has been reported in the Guianas."

I imagine the variations would be humongous. Okay, Weidner has this to say of the Jurupari:

"....often possible to discern two dark brown or reddish parallel stripes running upwards from the corner of the mouth to the eye. In addition there may be two further parallel dark bars on the forehead, which appear to join the the eyes together. "

IMO all are Jurupari, possibly variations as Juruparis being so widespread. It has occurred to me also (and also mentioned by Weidner) that those conveniently labelled as Jurupari could be a totally different unnamed species.

[nicktc]

Thanks Peter,

That's a great piece of info.